1. STILL of FACEBOOK CEO Mark Zuckerberg testifying on Capitol Hill
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Menlo Park, California - 18 July 2018
2. SOUNDUP (English) Mark Zuckerberg, FACEBOOK CEO: (Covered by STILL)
"So I'm Jewish. And there's this set of people who deny the Holocaust. I find that deeply offensive. But at the end of the day I don't believe that our platform should take that down, because I think that there are things that different people get wrong either, I don't think that they're intentionally getting a wrong. (In case of the Holocaust deniers they might be)... It's hard to impugn intent and to understand the intent. As abhorrent as some of those examples are I think the reality is also that I get things wrong when I speak publicly. I'm sure you do, I'm sure a lot of leaders and public figures who we respect do too. And I just don't think that it is the right thing to say.we are going to take someone off the platform if they get things wrong even multiple times. What we will do is we'll say okay you have your page and if you're not trying to organize harm against someone or attacking someone then you can put up that content on your page, even if people might disagree with it or find it offensive, but that doesn't mean that we have a responsibility to make it widely distributed in newsfeed."
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Skokie, Illinois - 19 July 2018
3. SOUNDBITE (English), Susan Abrams, CEO, Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education Center:
"I think Mark Zuckerberg likely erred. He referenced that individual speaking on public record do from time to time make misstatements and under pressure I think he was trying to he was grasping for an example that was close to home and personal. But I think he grasped for the very wrong example and a difficult and irresponsible one."
4. SOUNDBITE (English), Susan Abrams, CEO, Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education Center: "Holocaust deniers do have an agenda and it is not a positive agenda.It speaks to that underlying anti-Semitism and hatred and bigotry denying something that has been so documented through history."
5. SOUNDBITE (English), Susan Abrams, CEO, Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education Center:
"It's that old you don't cry fire in a crowded theater. That is dangerous. And so when something sets up an individual or a group of people for harm, I think that that is an opportunity and the place where Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg should be looking carefully and and taking down those types of posts."
Mark Zuckerberg's awkward and eyebrow-raising attempt this week to explain where Facebook draws the line on misinformation, manipulation and hate speech caused an uproar and eventual changes to the online platform.
In an interview with Recode , Zuckerberg, who is Jewish, said posts denying the Nazi annihilation of 6 million Jews took place would not necessarily be removed. Zuckerberg said that as long as posts are not calling for harm or violence, even offensive content should be protected.
While this has been a longstanding position at the company, Zuckerberg's statement and his reasoning, that he doesn't think Holocaust deniers are "intentionally" getting it wrong, caused an uproar.
Susan Abrams, CEO of the Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education Center in Skokie, Illinois, shared her reaction with Associated Press.
Zuckerberg later tried to explain his words, saying in an email to Recode's Kara Swisher that he personally finds "Holocaust denial deeply offensive, and I absolutely didn't intend to defend the intent of people who deny that."
Hours after the Facebook founder's about Holocaust deniers aired on Wednesday, the company announced it will also start removing misinformation that could lead to bloodshed.
The policy will begin in Sri Lanka and expand to Myanmar, where Facebook users have been accused of inciting anti-Muslim violence.
But beyond those guidelines, there are large gray areas. What, exactly, qualifies as supporting terrorist groups versus merely posting about them? Or mocking someone's premature death, something that is also prohibited?
If Facebook were to ban Holocaust denial, it might also be called on to prohibit the denial of other historical events, such as the Armenian genocide or the massacre of Native Americans by European colonizers.
This, Facebook might argue, could lead to a slippery slope where the company finds itself trying to verify the historical accuracy of users' posts.